Is the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k any good?? | BMPCC4k

Is the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k any good?? | BMPCC4k

(upbeat music) – Happy New Year, everybody. You guys know that Looney Tunes intro where like some character comes
out of like an orange ring? Do I look like that? (impersonates Porky Pig) That’s all, folks. (laughs) Okay, it’s a little bit
different than I remembered it. It has to be like orange circles, which I kind of have,
but it has to be bigger and the background has to be green. So let’s do that real quick and then we’ll start talking about this Black Magic
Cinema Pocket Camera 4K. It’s a lopsided circle. I’m really bad at this. It’s a little flat. Hey, that’s looking pretty good, huh? Okay, in the official Looney Tunes intro, there’s like a green backdrop, but you guys know I can’t
put a green backdrop behind here or else you guys
are gonna green screen me into a whole bunch of weird crap. I’m gonna get me in trouble. I do have that blue though. That’s a little bit dark. I’m gonna add a little
bit of light to this now. How’s that look? Oh, too bright. But in the Looney Tunes background, the pig has a shadow behind him, which means he’s being
lit by a harsh source, but clearly if you look at him, he’s being lit by something very very soft like there’s no gradation
in his skin tones. Looney Tunes has been lying to your face about lighting your entire life. And that is how you spend your
entire morning goofing off and not being productive at all. (laughs) But today we’re talking
about this camera right here, which is making a lot of
noise in the camera world. And after playing with
this for the last month, I can comfortably say this is a camera that is awesome for a lot of
people, but not everybody. Some of you guys need to
completely just stay away from it. Don’t even look at it. Stop it. Now before we start talking
trash about this camera, which is coming by the way, don’t worry, but let’s talk about why
I bought this for myself and my production company and why I spend my own money on it. First of all, it delivers a
professional output 4K 60 frames per second in ProRes 422 HQ and RAW, but me, personally, I
usually shoot on ProRes 422. I find that to be plenty
of space to work with. RAW can be nice once in a while, but as long as you dial in
your settings on set properly, I never really felt like, man,
I really wish this was RAW. It’s got a nice wide dynamic
range, very smooth and flat. And because it’s ProRes,
you can color grade the crap out of this thing. So it can work well as a B or C camera to many different set ups. But, bottom line, it
didn’t take much to sell me on this camera. All you have to say if
4K 60, ProRes 422 HQ, compact body, and it’s 1,300 bucks. Take my money. Am I expecting this to
be the best cinema camera that’s ever existed? No, not at all. But it’s 1,300 bucks. I mean, it literally is the
same price as this memory card. I’m not even kidding. This is the same price
as this memory card. Kinda sucks. (slapping sound effect) Ow. And I already have all these
other professional cameras. Why am I spending more money on this besides the fact that I’m
addicted to buying (beep)? Gimbal use, I mean, c’mon. I just finished doing a
whole shoot last month where I was traveling all over the place. Went to to NASA and
filmed on the launch pad, which was dope. We put the RED Epic
Helium on here and filmed with it all day, every
day, and it was awesome. It looked absolutely gorgeous, but my back hurts. I hate this. And when you compare
the weight of these two, I mean, this thing is tiny. Oh man, this would be a good thumbnail. Hold up here. Check this out. I always feel so stupid
doing these thumbnails. (laughs) Tada! Now it’s on the MoVI Pro and
that was like the simplest set up ever. The MoVI Pro has no issues. It doesn’t even know
there’s a camera on there. I’m gonna just strap this
mimic system onto my head and then check it out. I don’t even had to do anything. I just up to set, set
this up, and I go, okay, you want that angle? Got it. How back that? You want that too? I know you’re looking at me, dude! Stop! By the way, this MoVI Pro,
best gimbal I’ve ever used, hands down. I got to make whole video
about this thing someday. Oh my God, this thing
is so freaking light. I can literally use this thing all day. And because of it’s
size, it’s got to be one of the cameras that’s
gonna be super popular to throw on a gimbal, but they made it a little bit wide so it doesn’t fit onto a DJI Ronin-S. This company, LanParte,
they sent me a whole bunch of things for this camera,
which we’ll get into later, but they do make this offset plate, which will allow you
to mount this directly onto a Ronin-S or a Zhiyun Crane. So that’s probably gonna be one of the hot-selling
accessories for this camera. Now let’s talk about image
quality for a second. I’m gonna actually take this off of here. And right now I’m filming on the 80D, but I’m gonna take this camera
and put it in its place. And we’re switched over to the Black Magic Cinema camera 4K. Man that is a hard camera name to say. And I really like how it looks. I like the dynamic range. I like the highlight rolloff of my face. I look super pretty. And one of the reasons why
I was really considering this camera as my A camera
for the studio setup is that usually I’m filming with this camera and then I take this microphone and I have to plug this microphone, which is the Shure SM7B
into this Zoom F8 recorder and I record audio separately and then I have to sync it in post. But now I’m just literally
plugging this microphone straight into the camera with a mini XLR adapter because this camera actually
puts out phantom power which is awesome. So all you need is a little adapter cable that comes out of this camera
and gives you an XLR port. And this is generally what it looks like if I lightly grade the footage, but this is what it
looks like if it’s flat and then I can grade it
couple different ways. And there’s lot of flexibility. When I’m grading it, a lot of times, it reminds me of the Sony
FS7, which is good thing because the Sony FS7 is a great camera and it’s $7,000. But my main turn off of using this camera to film yourself is, first of all, you can’t really see yourself. And the only reason why I’m able to pull this off right now is because I have a giant
production monitor right there behind it showing me what I’m filming. But without that, you’re
literally just looking at this. This is what you’re gonna see and you’re gonna be like,
“Okay, I hope I got the shot. “I hope I’m in focus “because we don’t have
continuous auto focus.” And it generally works,
but it’s always in the back on my mind like am I in perfect focus? And I can’t really move around too much. And we’re back on the typical Canon 80D and I have my auto focus back so I can move all over the place and this thing will follow
me so glad about that. I must admit, though, that
Black Magic 4K ProRes looks so sharp. I am kind of tempted to use
this as my kind of studio A cam that I leave here, but I just don’t know if it’s worth the extra hassle because right now I can
film for hours and hours and I’ll just come out
with two little SD cards, one from the camera, one from the audio. Syncing only takes a few seconds and boom. Just that little short sequence that I filmed on this
camera, it was 35 gigs. I recorded in ProRes 422 HQ
and, my gosh, 35 gigabytes. That’s usually around the
size of my entire videos like with all my A roll, my B roll,
all the footage I get usually under like 25 gigs. And just that little tiny
segment right there, 35 gigs, just boof. And I usually don’t set
up a production monitor because right now I mean the
flippy screen out of the 80D, I mean, it’s great. It’s enough for what I’m doing. This I’m required to set
up that production monitor, but, man, on my 4K display, I could notice a pretty big difference. How different does it look to you guys? I’m gonna throw up that poll. I want you guys to tell me honestly. But keep in mind, the only reason why I’m slightly considering
this as my Youtube camera is because this is more like a studio hybrid. It’s more like a Youtuber vlog space, but also a regular
traditional film studio. But if you’re looking
for a camera specifically to start a Youtube channel, you plan on filming yourself a whole lot
or vlogging, don’t even, no. Is it in focus? – [Steve] It’s pretty good. – This is a terrible camera
to record yourself in, not really a vlogging camera,
but it probably looks nice. If you were vlogging, this is
what you would be staring at. You can kind of see that
this red light is recording, but that’s about it. You can’t really tell if you’re in focus or what it’s recording, what’s in frame, what’s in behind you. For me, a good vlog camera is something that you can just set up
and not think too much about because you don’t really
want to spend all your focus on the camera. You want to be focused on
whatever the hell you’re doing. When I’m looking at vlog cameras, the few things I’m looking
for is like a flip out screen, great auto focus, some sort
of image stabilization, whether it’s in the lens or in the body, and something very simple to use and great image just
right out of the body. I want to be able to just pull this thing out whenever I’m guilted, know confidently that I got a pretty good usable shot and then put it away and
then do something else. Somebody must have thought this would be a great vlogging camera because they put a
record button right there so you could film yourself, but no. This on the other hand,
I would use probably more if I was like a camera
operator to like a documentary or something where I’m gonna man it and be a traditional camera operator. As an indie filmmaker or a
small production company, I mean, this is great
option to get you started. Let’s say you’re trying
to film a documentary for a super low budget, I
would probably suggest this if this is your price bracket. But even though the body
price is nice and low, there is still a little
bit or work to be done with this camera before
I would consider it to be usable in a
professional environment. First of all, only 1/4
inch thread on the bottom. Once we start rigging this thing out, it’s gonna start slipping
and sliding sideways. This is a camera that you absolutely need to have a rig before you can use it in a professional environment
for many different reasons. But for one, there’s
no stabilization built into the body, so unless your
lens has image stabilization built into it, you better
be on a tripod or a gimbal or super steady. For me, whenever someone
uses a DSLR to film something without image stabilization,
it’s a dead give away that it’s a DSLR and not
like a cinema camera. It’s really because it’s so
much smaller and lighter. The thing with small cameras
is you’ll be holding it and you’ll be like,
“I’m holding this very, “very stable right now.” You don’t realize how much
you’re actually shaking. So, see this black dot right here? I have a laser on this camera and I have a mirror set
up on the other side of the room to kind of amplify the effects and I’m gonna basically
try to keep this laser on that black dot. You can see how much it
shakes and how fast it shakes. It’s very erratic. It’s like (trills tongue). So let’s rig this up. Add a little bit of weight to
it, give it some wider grips, and three points of contact. There’s a lot of different
rig options out there. LanParte was kind enough to send me some, so shout out to them. And their stuff seems
pretty reasonably priced for the quality. It’s definitely solid stuff. Top handle and SSD tray come with it so if you’re trying to record to like a two terabyte SSD
drive, not worry about data, you can mount it here
and plug it into the side of the camera and we got
ourselves a handheld rig, a follow focus, all that good stuff. I’m gonna link all this
stuff in the description. Now let’s do our super
scientific laser test. I got three points of contact,
a wider grip, more weight. And it’s not so much being
able to stay on the target, but more of how fast it jitters. And that jitter is like a dead give away that you’re shooting on
kind of like a DSLR opposed to a cinema cam. And cameras like the RED,
they’re so heavy out of the box that it doesn’t really need added support. Now, aside from getting
rid of that jitter, the first thing you’re
gonna really, really need to solve is the battery, which is my biggest
gripe with this camera. They actually give you
a crap generic battery when they ship you this camera. It is a terrible battery. It doesn’t even charge on
a genuine Canon charger. If you put that battery
into a Canon camera, it’s like what the hell is this? Get this out of my body. So I’ve been using the
authentic batteries from Canon and that seems to work
a little bit better, but still these are tiny batteries. We had to change out the
batteries so many times. It got really, really annoying and it doesn’t give you
that much of a heads up when it’s about to just cut out on you. These are like 14 watt hours, which is not gonna last long at all in a camera that’s
recording ProRes and RAW. I really feel like they should’ve just made the camera a tad bit bigger and just given it actually juice. A must is an external power source. You can plug it in from
the side right here. And really for any camera
that records 4K ProRes, you’re gonna want a nice
beefy battery like this and I just P tap into there. And this battery plate goes
on 15mm rails. Next this monitor back here,
it’s pretty nice and big and sharp so I feel pretty
comfortable pulling focus on it, but it doesn’t articulate
at all like in any direction and it’s not that bright. So if you’re outdoors, you’re
gonna get tons of glare. You’re not really gonna be
able to see it that well. So it’s a great monitor if
you have the camera right at eye level and it’s a pretty dark place. Then, it’s great. Otherwise, it sucks. Some point or another,
you’re really gonna need to invest in a decent external monitor. So it’s great that it’s only 1,300 bucks to get you up and running with the body, but really to get it to
perform, you’re gonna have to spend some extra
money to kind of make up for what it’s lacking. It has a full-sized HDMI
port, which is great, but no SDI port, which kind of is a bummer because a lot of cinema
cameras like the Arri Alexa, they only have SDI. They don’t even have HDMI. SDI is so much more of
a better connection. HDMI, you kind of like
wiggle the cable wrong or something and you’ll lose connection. I mean, HDMI works and it’s inexpensive, but once you use SDI a
couple times, you’re like, “Wow, this is so much better.” Also keep in mind, there’s
no ND filters built in, so you might want to
get yourself a matte box if you have cine lenses where
you can’t just thread them on. And a lot of people are not
happy about the Micro 4/3, which I’m personally not a fan of either. I got a speed booster,
which adapts the EF lenses to the Micro 4/3 system and this speed booster
basically redirects the light so you get a little bit of extra light out of the lens, which is always nice. You still maintain control over the electronic controlled lenses. Instead of it being a
two times crop factor, it becomes more like a
1.4 times crop factor. Metabones makes great speed boosters and I’ve been using theirs for years, but I’ve been trying this new one by, I think it’s Commlite or Ommlite and that’s been really awesome because instead of it feeling
like a Micro 4/3 system, it feels a whole lot more like Super 35. So, Ommlite or Commlite
or whatever you call it, I’ll link them in the description as well. But, yeah, once I got
all these accessories on, it’s starting to feel much
more like a usable camera. One thing is for sure, once
this is all said and done, the image quality out of
this camera is surprising for it’s price point. It’s really on par with
cameras that are like five to 10 thousand dollars. ♪ Happy birthday to Steve ♪ ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ – Thank you. – Woo! And their low light
capabilities, a huge improvement over some of their previous models. At 6,400 ISO, it still looks pretty decent and you crank it way up and of course you start seeing
a whole lot of grain there, but still for a Micro 4/3
system, I’m impressed. Now in terms of the user
interface, the menu, and just kind of dialing
in all your settings, this might one of the
most well laid out menus that I have ever seen. It’s very, very straightforward,
very simple to use. And everything’s just super
simple, the way it should be. I didn’t look at the manual. I just kind of went into the menu to try to see if I could
figure everything out myself and it was a breeze. The only thing that took
me a little while to figure out is how to get it into
120 frames per second. That one took me a minute,
but basically you first have to go into HD and then you
have to do a window sensor, which crops in, and
then you can crank it up to 120 frames per second. The 120 frames per second
slow motion on this, definitely very usable, but it is cropped and it’s in HD, so keep that in mind. And for a camera with
such bad battery life, I really wish they didn’t
place the battery right here on the bottom like a photo camera. DSLR is a photography camera. It’s fine to put it right here. You’re usually handheld or on a tripod, but photography tripods
are usually very small and you have very easy access to this bottom port right here. When you’re shooting cinema, you’re usually on a big
fat fluid head tripod. You might have to pull it
off the trip or whatever just to get into this battery door. Pretty much every cinema
camera I can think of right now has the battery
that comes out from the back. So it’s easy to switch
it on and off no matter if it’s on a gimbal or a rig or whatever. It really sucks having a
perfectly balanced gimbal and then the battery dies and you’re like, “Oh, let me take this camera
entirely off the gimbal, “switch out the battery, put
it back in, and rebal…” It’s a pain. Oh my God, look how dramatic this is. And the best part about
this whole thing is that this wood is fake. It’s like wrapping paper. It looks pretty convincing
though doesn’t it? For 1,300 bucks, this is
really, really impressive. At the same time, it does
concern me a little bit. How are they able to develop this and drive the price down so low? You guys might’ve seen my
first video about this camera where I got it, it worked
great for five minutes, and then completely
stopped working giving me this weird green, black image. Had to ship it back in because it was like an internal error. And stuff like that, I get it. Every single camera company
has had a big unit come off their production line, but I feel like Black Magic
might have a few more issues than most established camera companies. I would probably go out of my way to buy the extended warranty. Usually stores like B&H or Amazon, they usually offer you like a camera or an electronics
extended warranty program that goes to three to four years in case anything happens to it. I usually skip those,
but with this camera, just from what I’ve seen and
what I’ve heard others say about issues with their camera, I’d probably pay the little
extra to just get that and I probably wouldn’t also want this to be my only camera on a set because of the reliability issue that I’ve had in the past. Me, personally, I’d probably
be using this mostly as like a B or C cam to other cameras and I definitely see a
time and place for it in some of my future projects. So I’m really happy about this purchase. I’m really curious how the Black Magic and the RED look side by side. Should I make that it’s own video? Hmm, maybe. And let’s close this video
off with reading a couple of comments from my last video, which was all about putting
a GoPro and the DJI Osmo on this little RC car,
zipping it around town, and seeing how the footage looked. Top comment from Dan & Nak: can you try the RED on
the RC car next time? I think I need a bigger RC car. Actually Freefly, the
company that makes the MoVI, they actually create an RC car that fits the MoVI and then
you can throw a RED camera on there and zip that
around, which is pretty cool. The Freefly Tero, oh there it is. Man, those things look so cool. I want one so bad. Put that on my wishlist for Christmas. Oh, wait, Christmas is already over. Damn it. What’s the affiliate link
for pizza and foot massages? That’s not for sale. Next comment comes from
I’m a big sandwich. That’s a great name. I don’t know if potato
is ever gonna see this, but here’s an analogy
between RC and sensor size. Oh that’s actually pretty cool. 1/20th scale and smaller is a 1 2/3 inch. Micro 4/3 is 1/14th scale. 1/5th scale, medium format sensors. That actually makes
perfect sense to me now. That was very useful. I would rate the dog three out of four. Show your abs. Okay, you guys asked for it. Here we go. That’s real. This is not photoshopped at all. (gentle electronic music)

71 thoughts on “Is the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k any good?? | BMPCC4k

  1. Received my BMPCC 4K these days and …. it's just awesome! The footage (esp in RAW) looks so fantastic. Very happy with it. But it makes sense to add some gear like a rig, SSDs, SSD-holder and lots and lots of batteries 😉

    BTW: The camera fits just fine on the Ronin-S – just use the mount adapter that is delivered with the Ronis-S … it's in the small pouch with all the cables stuff. Put that one the normal mounting plate and the Blackmagic on top and it balances just fine.

  2. The battery on the bottom doesn't matter, because you can't do anything serious with the camera without external battery.

  3. I have been shooting on Black Magic cameras for a long time now. The first pocket cinema I had always heard baaaad things about, and I had never even considered shooting on one after using the ursa for so long. but my first time using the pocket cinema I really ended up loving it. it is so tiny that for running and gunning and getting cinema grade footage it is such a perfect fit. so great for guerrilla shooting and once you get that PTAP going into it, it can legit last for like a day or two of shooting

  4. This Dude is absolutely FUNNY AS F___!!!

    …..and obviously knowledgeable about His craft!!……just won Himself a New Subscriber…..SALUTE!

  5. Got my Black Magic PCC4K just a few days ago … yeah .. screw RED! $1750 for a 4K camera that gives you 16 bit RAW!!?! … you are nuts if you think that’s bad! For any of the negatives of this camera (battery power isn’t great) it’s hands down the BEST film camera I’ve used. And at this price point .. this was an easy sell. Works beautifully with my sigma 18-35 mm lens (with metabones adapter).

    Nice and light, amazing camera image.

    Don’t use Pro Rez … BM Raw is Better!!!!

  6. From my end the canon looks better for this purpose of YouTube filming. Maybe you just needed to spend more time on the color grade.

    I also own the BMPCC4K and I think it’s great! I also own the Ursa Mini Pro. This camera has officially replaced that. (ANYONE WANNA BUY MY BARELY USED URSA MINI PRO 4.6K?! LOL). I shoot with natural light and the dual sensor is just fantastic. I can’t ever go back to a bad low light camera, that’s what it comes down to. I also love that it’s super light for gimbals.

    Adobe Premiere needs Blackmagic RAW support tho!!! This is killing me!

  7. I do wish it had a neutral density filter tho. And I wish Zeiss and some other renowned lens brands like Leica and Cooke would make some dope Micro four thirds lenses. I want WIDE baby! I have the 0.64x metabones EF speedbooster adapter (I returned the 0.73x one for this, that wasn’t wide enough for me). But it just doesn’t feel right using it with my Zeiss. I needed to purchase lens support which not sorta blocks my Nucleus M motor..I have to look into other lens supports, the small rig one doesn’t cut it. Too bulky. Without lens support for me there is too much movement when I use the focus motor.. and my torque is r crazy or anything, Iran just the nature of the adapter I guess 🙁

  8. 13:30 what do you think would have less noise? A T1.2 lens with a speed booster on the bmpcc 4k or a T1.2 lens of a sony a7iii? Is the full frame sensor going to get cleaner footage with 1 stop less of light?

  9. Wait! 4:50 !
    The Sure SM7b doesn't need phantom power. It's a dynamic mic. Condensers are the ones that need phantom power, not dynamics.

  10. Nothing clever about speaking so fast that people have to go into settings and reduce the playback to 0.75 – Also use cutaways. It's about the kit not you.
    Otherwise reasonable review.

  11. Never mind I see the way you record that's too complex for me on the run ghost hunts I need to move around see and hear stuff I use The rode pro plus It's cool with me cause I had 149 dollar lav mic that sucked then the Rode go came with my 80 d the rode pro plus to me is awesome I feel I can be a one man crew now I don't know how you carry those cinema cameras my 80 d is heavy enough

  12. The 80 D is great I know I'm saying that cause its my camera but you can't beat that auto focus I love the add I call it like me I call it that cause it can do allot even at night if you crank up the iso i don't even know what i'm talking about but I love the 80 D

  13. the thing about the rigging is that you're buying items that can be used for any camera. apart from the cage you can transfer all those accessories to your next camera investment, so if you're a film maker you either already own them or you will need them regardless

  14. Potato Jet, I f'ing love you. BUT, you cant criticize a cinematic camera for not being good at filming yourself. This wasn't meant for vlogging. I know that's a big thing for you, but not for potential buyers of this camera. The LAST thing I want is to see is myself on camera! 🙂 Also, I would love to see the laser test you did with the red on a similar rig.

  15. I'm seeing that in some videos they say that this camera is superb and some "genius" compares it to Alexa and Red .. (ahahaha ..) .. I just say that the BMPCC 4K is a fantastic camera for those who use it semi-professional. But if I have to buy this camera for $ 1300 and then I have to spend another $ 2000 for monitors, SSDs, rigs, Matte boxes, etc … for me it makes absolutely no sense. Throwing the dollars in accessories for a plastic camera I find it really unintelligent .. If I have to shoot a professional video I prefer to rent an Arri or Red or Sony Venice, etc.

  16. question when you filmed the happy birthday part tell you didn't have that entire gear you show leading up to the video.

  17. Great review! I watched it before I bought my BMPCC4k and now I've started my own channel shooting genre shorts with it! Thanks for the great info!!!

  18. You call yourself Professional, BUT obviously you didn't learn that's it's rude to point at people, it's unprofessional to wave your hands around close to the camera, put your hands within inches of the camera and as for your editing, it's very poor. It seems the only thing which makes you think you're pro is the equipment you can afford to use. By the way, anyone can video NASA's launches or anyone else's, come to that.

  19. Its not Black Magic that is priced low…its other cameras that are ripping you off, just because most production companies can afford the ridiculous pricing of RED, Arri, etc.

  20. Hey Potato jet, your video about the 6k version is too late. So all I can do is to watch the video of the old version again in the waiting room 😀

  21. That intro tho!

    Potato, the crop factor on the BMPCC 4k is 1.75 (like the GH5S). Canon apsc crop is 1.6. Not really that different, right?

  22. Sat here watching this and my dad who knows nothing about cameras started watching too. "You can't take your eyes off this video, he is so captivating!" Nice job. Side note: Nice cameras, shame it's not full frame but for the price can't complain I suppose

  23. This is a really informative video! Thankyou for sharing!
    Everyone is going CRAZY for the latest pocket 6K but forget the whole workflow must handle the power! I can’t afford a new mac pro and a 6k screen.
    I’m just enjoying being creative and having fun with the original pocket camera.
    I just put this together!

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